I just don’t get companies the size of Dell having sub par customer service in this day and age of information being so readily available for mass consumption. It’s utterly shocking to me that enormous multinational corporations act, when faced with criticism, by performing the public relations equivalent of sticking one’s head in the sand.
A while back I wrote an entry about web services from relatively unknown providers and the why of how they fail. This sentiment seems to echo with large hardware firms too;
Trust is the single most important factor for a company in an era where Googling before buying is a social mainstay. People are loathe to leave positive experiences, but when it comes to negative fuck you posts they will quite happily dedicate a couple of hours to eviscerate a company.
It’s just human nature; look at what I am doing right now!
So, Elise owns a Dell Laptop, an XPS 15 9530 to be specific. Between us, we currently have around a dozen devices in use and have owned multiple laptops from Apple products to other Dell XPS laptops. My opinions on tech diverge from the norm because I am ultimately a tinkerer; not one of my devices is utilized out of the box. I wipe and reinstall my own (clean) OS, I usually upgrade the HDD, and broadly speaking, I am comfortable enough with tech that as long as the board is accessible, I will be alright.
In Dell’s defence, the XPS is easily serviceable, but sadly one of the core issues is its shoddy battery quality control.
This is a well known fact that Dell for reasons I can’t quite fathom, refuses to address.
- http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19622921
- http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/xps-15-battery-failures.798227/
- http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/20025514
ect. etc. This is a well documented issue, with hundreds of verifiable online reports.
If you are wondering how to ascertain the battery on your Dell swelling and getting dangerously close to going kaboom, the tell tale sign is the track-pad being pushed out and becoming unresponsive, a natural conclusion to the electronics being pushed beyond their manufacturing tolerances as a consequence of the battery growing upward to twice its size.
If you really want to make sure, unscrew the back and pop the body shell off. It’s pretty quick to do and accessibility is high with the Dell XPS 15.
The photograph below was the battery (the original one); as you can see, swelling is evident.
At the time, (November 2015) I was rather busy with work/life etc. and had no interest in dealing with Dell customer service which has a frankly ghastly reputation unless you are a corporation. I simply bought a new (genuine) Dell battery and replaced it myself.
This lasted for 2 years. Recently, Elise said the issue was happening again, and so I went through the same process of taking the body off to inspect the internals. As I expected, the cells were expanding, once again.
This time, now having 2 desktops and 4 laptops in the house, I didn’t feel the pressure to rush out and replace the cells myself so I decided to give Dell customer service a shot and the results were what I expected – no acknowledgement of any issues and just corporate grab for more money from its customers to fix their own mfg issues.
Here is the full conversation from start to finish; yes I know I am a brat, but suggesting I should pay to fix their (unsafe) shit is ridiculous.
What I find incredible is this idea that they can ignore this problem as if it was isolated. The internet is rife with similar reports to my own and yet their customer service will outright state that nothing is wrong (yet I have the option to pay to fix something that isn’t wrong?) as it is not a known issue, all of this despite having multiple threads on their own support forums detailing the same issue.
Companies have to man up and be clear about their own failing or run the risk of losing market share far beyond a single customer.
As an individual, I will never buy a Dell laptop again, as a blogger, I will advise people to stay away from them as a consequence of their piss poor customer service and utter lack of accountability with their own failures.
This post will be online, literally forever and it makes me wonder what the raw numbers are like. Is it worth damaging your reputation by not fixing a problem (that had nothing to do with me or how I used the laptop) and thus alienating me and perhaps some of my readers or would Dell have been better off simply admitting that their batteries are faulty and replacing them as and when needed free of charge?
Do corporate shit-tier companies have an algorithm to decide when they should take responsibility versus ignoring the problem?
But here is the real issue folks: not everyone has my kind of tech surplus. A lot of people only have a single computer and its causing them to hack together fixes that are extremely dangerous because Dell refuses to acknowledge the problem.
Someone’s home is going to burn down one of these days. Dell should see this kind of shit on YouTube and rush to offer a fix. The swelling comes from gas: do not keep using the battery if you have the same swelling battery situation.
This is a serious issue. There is a reason why Apple products will always be taken more seriously (despite inferior specs) and this is it.
Accountability is a thing, and when whiny little shits like me can throw shade at you from the comfort of an armchair, you better be on top of your game or make sure you are in the right.
TLDR; Dell batteries swell to dangerous levels and Dell Customer Support thinks it’s a-ok because it’s “not a known issue,” even though multiple people have it, but let’s not let facts get in the way of profit margins. Dell’s solution to a problem that doesn’t exist? For us to give them money to fix said non-existent problem. Wow. Avoid.
I have the same issue with my XPS 15 9530. What did you end up doing? Did you purchase repairs from dell or go somewhere local. I’m really aggravated by this. I didn’t even realize it was happening to my laptop. Strongly considering apple as a replacement.
Hi Sarah, sorry about the late response- I bought a battery on eBay and switched it out myself. Dell has cancerous customer support and will gouge you if you go to them to fix one of their own mfg defects.
Apple has its own issues to be honest, I personally have had nothing but good experiences with Lenovo (3 laptops now, and counting) but I would suggest you get what you enjoy using in terms of size/feel, especially with the trackpad & keyboard.
Ugh. I have an XPS 15 9550. Same issue. And I have called a few times on this issue starting in Sept 2018 and this is my only computer and I work from home. So I couldn’t just send it off. Yesterday (May 28, 2019 in case you don’e read this for a while :) ) I was informed that it has now became “not a known issue” and the Dell support person actually hung up on me. I just want to cry.
Aye, absolutely awful support. You can change the battery yourself (50’ish on ebay for the battery and a bit of elbow grease on your end) but I shan’t be buying Dell ever again. Ghastly company, I am so sorry they treated you this way but I am not surprised. :(
Same thing just happened to my XPS 9560. Had it for almost 2 years. Swapped it out for another battery. I can’t believe this has been a widely known issue for over 2 years now and they keep installing the same shit batteries in it without addressing the issue.
Well definitely never be buying a Dell computer again. Utter shit.
“Well definitely never be buying a Dell computer again. Utter shit.” < I completely feel this
I’m right there with everyone else who has this issue…swollen battery in a 9560. I’m dealing with it right now and have threatened to contact corporate and the local news stations to bring some publicity to the matter.
There is no way I’m ever going to give them a cent of my money again. I also have corporate purchasing decision authority, and will pull them from our list of vendors.
It’s so short-sighted of them to not admit fault here. They made the choice of battery suppliers. They need to stand behind their product when their supplier has a manufacturing defect.
Screw ’em.
100% agree. Wonder if the local news stations in your area would pick this up; would love to see this spoken about more.
I have a similar issue with the Precision M3800 which is similar to the XPS15 9350. The touchpad has been difficult to use for a few years so I’ve stopped the touchpad and was using a bluetooth mouse using it. I didn’t realise the problem was the expanding battery until i opened it up and was appalled at how swollen it was … and I’m a techie! It just didn’t occur to be that Dell could put out such a shoddy, and to be frank, dangerous product.
Lesson learned. That’s the last dell I’m buying. And since the replacement don’t appear to fair any better I’m not replacing the batter but moving on.
Yup. We live and learn Nikky! I have a Huawei Matebook now and I couldn’t be happier.
The same happened to me. I have a Dell M3800 with all the entire batt swollen ( I call it “with pillowed cells” ). I cut carefully the black sticker from an edge of above without harming the cells, I measure the 3 pairs of cells in the soldering points and I got 2.7Volts. This threshold is under the standard of minimum discharging voltage and the BMS circuit of the battery didn’t try to charge them. You can charge with a current controlled power supply to carry the levels of the cell near the 3.7V to 4.2V, in other words, slightly over 3.5V. Finally, the BMS circuit would detects that he has three pairs of cells with voltages over 3.5V and this must work.
Analogy: I have an e-bike with a 48V 15A batt pack….if the batt pack falls under 40V (in ex) when you put the Li-ion charger, the BMS won’t charge the pack until it has a minimum voltage of 42V. In this case, you have to “GIVE” voltage directly to the battery output in order to raise a little be the DC… and when this gets near 42…43V you can unplug and re-plug the charger to the correct BMS input charging port.
Just a timely update to your interesting post from 2017 – Here it is, now July 2023 – Dell continues to put out batteries that swell on their PCs. My team has about 20 Dell laptops and we have had a solid 20%-30% still having this same issue.
I wonder if its a “Known Issue” now??